She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! His doctors have requested that he returns to Dubai for further testing. Hashtags such as #FreeTopG and references to Matrix opposition have flooded social media since the influencers arrest in December. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). Or did they? Not everything is a conspiracy. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. Those bodies would have been manipulated by something around there. That woman has no soul. Trash-talking ex. All the sources said the same thing either exposure or suffocation, but no certainty about which one. Then you claim this is an opinion. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. Omg so well put! And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? I hope she rots in hell. As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. We will automatically post your comment and a link to the news story to your Facebook timeline at the same time it is posted on MailOnline. With Andrew unwilling or unable to pay the going rate, likely to be thousands of pounds per week, Charles has decided to kick the Sussexes out of the five-bedroom Frogmore Cottage and offer the keys to his younger brother, who is resisting. What a lame article. Despite the new evidence and hypotheses, the courts have rejected all of Patricias bids for a new trial. Her mother was married to my uncle. I think shes guilty for sure. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. Had there been a switch? Andrew F Katrinak was born on month day 1882, at birth place. The district attorney's office dismissed as offensiveNeely's implications on the evidence, according to the newspaper's report. This weekDuke of York said he does not want to leave his mansion in the grounds of Windsor Castle despite telling friends he fears he will be unable to afford its upkeep if the King cuts his 250,000-a-year grant. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Officers escort Andrew Tate, centre, and his brother Tristan Tate to the Court of Appeal in Bucharest. Great communicator. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. And NOBODY saw her at all? And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. Justice is about uncovering the truth. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. Especially mice! As Prince Harry says he felt like the film 'the boy in the bubble' before having therapy, who was 12-year-old David Vetter whose tragic story inspired the documentary? Instead, she took the girl to Myers' stables just about every day. Not sure why anyone is defending her. The District Attorney got this one right. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. Copyright 2023 PeekYou.com. ``Some people just don't know how to let go,' Hege said. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. The additions come as KFC recently removed some menu items, including wings, popcorn chicken and cookies, to make room for new additions. Police said the couple moved in together and had a 1-year-old baby daughter. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. Katrinak, Andrew J.Andrew Joseph Katrinak, 88, of Bethlehem, died on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at Blough Healthcare Center in Bethlehem. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. Andrew Katrinak told police he refused to speak to her, and Joann Katrinak warned Rorrer not to call back. Rorrer, formerly of the Phillipsburgand High Bridge areas, was living in Linwood, North Carolina, when she was arrested in 1997. Jealousy was the motive. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). At the trial, prosecutor Michael McIntyre alleged that Patricia remained obsessed with Andrew Katrinak long after their breakup despite testimony that shed had many boyfriends and live-in lovers to occupy her bandwidth. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. Highly charged case. From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. Joanne wouldnt have fought back as she was shot therefore almost immediately incapacitating her and was holding her son. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. Andrew J Katrinak, age 68, Drake, CO . According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. Discover address history, phone, age and more. Police slowly built a case against Patricia. Now retired, he declined ForensicFilesNow.coms invitation to spar directly with Patricia via a podcast. Unfortunately for Joanne this psycho took it badly. None. Wow. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! . Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. I would have liked better her being put to death! As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. Its totally irrelevant. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. Theodore Kohuth, the baby on top of the dead mother. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. No explanation given. As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. They are total bs. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! Arkansas (1) Colorado (4) Connecticut (1) Pennsylvania (2) Virginia (2) Refine Your Search Results. It makes me sick. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. KOREAN WAR Son of Martin & Theresa (Novotney) Katrinak and husband to Veronica B. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. They added that doctors in Romania and Dubai wrote medical documents which confirmed he has a lesion on his upper right lung, which could be a sign a tumour has developed. . And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. Two problems, then: a failure to see your own position as you see others (failure to comprehend irony), and failure to understand the difference between fact and opinion. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. It was just assumed to be crib death. I accept there are a couple of remarks which can be seen that way but they are in direct response to those whove been offensive in the first place. Beautifully said Cliff! Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. Nobody said bodies were intact. Yeah, no. SHAME ON THEM. Although I would have liked it to be death! Hege had jail inmates search the woods behind Rorrer's house on Wilson Road. Its not logical to say we know the truth unless we seen it for ourselves. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. View the profiles of people named Andrew Katrinak. She was the one that left Andy! Book her. What evidence is there she actually left the state? In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. Neely's motion on Rorrer's behalf argues that new information from the lab reports show the samples had no roots, while the testing that identified the strands as Rorrer's showed they had roots, The Morning Call reports. Patricia is a evil monster. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies, Copyright 2023 The Associated Press. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. It says that Andrew Katrinak passed his lie detector test. In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. ``As good as she is with people and animals, I just can't believe it.'. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. Sorry, I must have missed your name on the witness list. Andrew Tate and his brother detained by Romanian Police. Id wanna be done with that shite quick too.. meh what do I know! And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. Do you realize that Patricia was only found and arrested more than six months after the murder? ``People who work with horses, they love 'em, rub 'em, pet 'em, and at the same time they can be firm with 'em, jerk their bits if they need to,' Hege said. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. All Filters. no blood, no finger-prints and no soil evidence it was as if the car had been wiped clean stated the attending investigating police officer!That itself has to be considered highly suspicious and cast doubt on the hair evidence which WAS found. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. ``She was real good with kids, good to mine at least,' Jost said. Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. It seems so, according to you. What will the next pandemic be? Personal details about Andrew include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Caucasian; and religious views are listed as unknown. Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. By posting your comment you agree to our house rules. Nailed? Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. You, however seem to have no problem with these hurtful and damaging comments aimed at Rorrer. (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. The couple moved into Andrews sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. You can choose on each post whether you would like it to be posted to Facebook. But investigators conceded they had no solid evidence against Andrew. However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Kidnapped and killed? The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. Name. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. But none of those charges ever stuck. Do not sell or share my personal information. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? You people are fighting a losing cause! Nope. This woman was obsessed and jealous. Search is on. Just saying. View Andrew Katrinak's record in Drake, CO including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. Court records show she is incarcerated in the Lehigh County Jail. Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? Your email address will not be published. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence!

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